Reasonable force?

It is always hard to determine how much force - and what type of force - is needed in any type of altercation.

It is very easy to be wise after the event! However, it may seem like these folks here (from Rootstown Township, Ohio) didn't have the skills and training needed to restrain a shoplifter who tried to take off - something very few have any type of experience to deal with unfortunately.

It is not too difficult if you work as a team - and if you have the proper type of techniques to hold someone (alone it is very difficult, no matter what your training might be).

What most people do wrong is to use too much weight upon a prone person - in effect choking the person to death, or using too much force on the neck or chest.

If something goes terribly wrong, you may end up being the target of a lawsuit, like the people in this case seems to be subject to.

In January 2004, a shop-lifter walked to a store parking lot after loading a cart with groceries. A manager and an employee approached the man, whereupon he attacked the employee. The two workers and two passers-by tried to restrain the man while waiting for police.

With the four men on top of him, the man died of asphyxiation from force applied to his neck and torso within minutes. A County coroner reportedly ruled the death a homicide.